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Poetic Justice: IbnTaymiyyah's Poem
Poetic Justice: IbnTaymiyyah's Poem
Poetic Justice: IbnTaymiyyah's Poem
Ejaz Taj
Dec 06
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Last Updated on Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:42
This poem and its simple yet enduring message is the intended purpose of the writing of this short article. From it we derive the very methodology by which we live our lives and view this blessed religion of ours.
We find that for every individual blessed and tested with the heavy responsibility of prophethood, there will be many from amongst his most vehement rejecters and likewise many will become his most ardent supporters. Many may once have been his fiercest opponents yet when the Light of Allah finally penetrated their constricted hearts, they experienced an equivocal freedom. This sense of freedom was what they dedicated their lives to propagating so that others too may taste the sweetness of faith based upon the truth which is far removed from speculation.
Looking back in history before the advent of Muhammad (peace be upon him) at the struggles of the Prophets of old, we see that many of the greatest amongst them were fortified with a group of diligent companions who would shadow their every step, memorise their every word, and live by every one of their teachings. It was Moses who was sent on a mission accompanied by his brother Aaron. Both were then accompanied by a number of righteous companions from the Children of Israel who remained in a state of gratitude to the special status conferred upon them by the Most High. Jesus the son of Mary was given the company of his Hawariyyoon (disciples). Correspondingly, so too was our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) blessed with a people, his companions who lived with him, learned from him, were expelled from their lands with him, migrated with him, fought alongside him, sacrificed with him and for him, and tasted every hardship and rejection that their most beloved faced. Such was his love for these men and women of intense loyalty and unshakeable faith that he declared,
“Do not curse the Companions, for by the One in Whose hand is my soul, if any one of you spent the equivalent of Mount Uhud in gold, he would not attain the level of any one of them, or even reach half way.”[1]
Yet despite this, the devil, may he be cursed, was forever relentless. He would dispatch his soldiers from all directions in order to appropriate souls that would otherwise accompany the Creator’s Messenger (peace be upon him) on the Day of Reckoning, defiling their beliefs and corrupting their actions until their blackened hearts would send them headfirst into the Fire of Hell, doomed to eternal chastisement. Preying upon the weaknesses of mankind, man’s unceasing quest for fame, status and a heart that is constantly ablaze with the flame of pride, envy and jealousy, the devil sought the formation of an evil new creed, the origins of which sprung forth, at least in part, from the blackened actions of a man named ‘Abdullah ibn Saba.
This sordid creed is none other than that of the path of Rejectionism (or ‘Rafd’ in Arabic), its adherents known as the Rafidah or the Twelver Imaamiyyah Shi’ah. It is in this creed that the mandatory love, respect and honour for those whom the Prophet (peace be upon him) revered is purposely insulted. They sought to curse, insult, slander, and cast doubts upon the honour and righteousness of these individuals by accusing them of thievery, swindling, bad manners, deceitfulness, immoral behaviour, corruption, injustice, and worst of all, charging the vast majority of them with disbelief. Moreover, they raise their own Imams to a level above even that of the Prophets, attributing to them infallibility in all matters.
The spread of this ideology would continue, constantly refuted and contained by the established Muslim scholarship of every generation which continues until this day. Yet it was in 661 AH that the Almighty gave life to an individual, a reviver of the religion whose scholarship, works and selfless service would ensure his legacy would remain alive for generations to come. He was a towering intellect with a wealth of knowledge in every Islamic science, dedicating his life to propagating and clarifying the true and pure Islamic creed while refuting various deviant ideologies. A man whose name would echo throughout history and send waves throughout Islamic scholarship for centuries to come, Ahmad ibn ‘Abd Al Haleem ibn ‘Abd Al Salaam ibn Taymiyyah Al Harani, better known as Shaikh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah.
Amongst the most prevalent deviant ideologies of his time was creed of Rejectionism. Sometime during the period between 704H and 709H, it was brought to Ibn Taymiyyah’s attention that a Shi’ite scholar by the name of Muttahhir Al-Hilli[2] had authored a treatise in defence of the Rafidite concept of Imaamate. The book was written specifically for the Mongolian ruler of Persia at the time, Oljaitu (also named by his people as Khuda-banda, Man of God), and was also widely distributed to the many sub-rulers and laypeople who had little grounding in their religion. Oljaitu was born a Christian but later on accepted Islam along with his brother. After some time he developed an affinity for Shi’ism due partly to a marital incident that occurred in his life, but mainly due to the influence of Mutahhir Al-Hilli with whom he had developed a close relationship. Al-Hilli wrote for Oljaitu a work entitled Minhaaj Al-Karaamah fee Ma’rifatil Imaamah (The Blessed Pathways in the Recognition of Imaamate) extolling the virtues of the core Shi’ite belief of Imaamate (as opposed to the core tenets of Islam laid down in the Qur’an and Sunnah) in an attempt to sway his belief away from mainstream Sunni Islam to that of Rejectionism. He eventually succumbed and adopted Shi’ism around 709-710 AH as well as announcing it as the official state religion of the time, even necessitating the mention of the 12 imams from then onwards in the Friday sermon.
The book itself was distributed far and wide and when it was brought to the attention of Ibn Taymiyyah by the sincere amongst Ahl al-Sunnah, he was urged to refute the misconceptions and outright falsehoods found within it. Ibn Taymiyyah felt bound by the heavenly covenant taken by those blessed with knowledge and entrusted with the inheritance of the Prophets, mentions at this juncture:
“So, when they (those who brought Minhaaj Al-Karaamah to his attention) kept pushing me in seeking a refutation to this clear misguidance, mentioning that not doing so would be a disgrace to the believers and that the people of transgression (from whom originated these ideologies) would begin to think that we are unable to provide answers in the face of these slanders, I wrote what Allah made easy for me in answering them and by way of fulfilling the promise that He has taken from the people of knowledge amongst the believers that they stand up for justice and in bearing witness to Him. Allah has said, “O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do.”[3]
Thus distorting [“Al-Layyu” from “wa laa talwoo” in the verse] is changing one’s witness and to refuse to give it is in actuality to conceal it. For Allah the Most Exalted has indeed ordained truthfulness and its articulation whilst forbidding deceit and concealment of it in as much as what is needed to make it known and for it to be understood.” [4]
Thus distorting [“Al-Layyu” from “wa laa talwoo” in the verse] is changing one’s witness and to refuse to give it is in actuality to conceal it. For Allah the Most Exalted has indeed ordained truthfulness and its articulation whilst forbidding deceit and concealment of it in as much as what is needed to make it known and for it to be understood.” [4]
‘Indeed this book Minhaaj As-Sunnah An-Nabawiyyah of Ibn Taymiyyah was written with the intended purpose of serving as a thorough reply and refutation to what was said in (Al-Hilli’s) Minhaaj Al-Karamah. You will find it a comprehensive refutation of deviant groups, specifically the Twelver Imaamiyyah Shi’ite who are identified by their extremism in their beliefs regarding their Imams, namely, their raising of them to a level above even that of the angels and Messengers. They are also known by their belief that the Qur’an has been distorted, and of course, their outright cursing of the honourable and upright companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). These were the very companions who strove with their lives and their wealth to propagate the true religion and in raising the Word of Monotheism throughout the regions of the earth.’
The book itself is a marvel to behold. The sheer depth of Ibn Taymiyyah’s knowledge of history, fiqh (jurisprudence), hadith, Qur’anic exegesis, language, philosophy, human psychology, logic and knowledge of the inner workings of the various other sects and religions is in and of itself awe-inspiring. Many of his other works will generally focus on a specific area yet in Minhaaj As-Sunnah you will see him draw upon every science and every angle to answer hundreds of issues in defence of the pure creed of Ahl al-Sunnah.
*In keeping with the core rationale of Ibn Taymiyyah’s work on Minhaaj As-Sunnah, he composes an elegant poem in refutation of Al-Hilli’s poetry which encourages the disavowal of Islamic scholarship in favour of Shi’ite narrations, which for all intents and purposes are overrun either by unknown and untraceable narrators, or chains of narration that are extremely lacking.
Ibn Taymiyyah writes this piece as a beautiful reminder of the characteristics of the Straight Path made clear for one possessed of a pure heart and an unwavering sincerity to seek the truth. This poem and its simple yet enduring message is the intended purpose of the writing of this short article. From it we derive the very methodology by which we live our lives and view this blessed religion of ours.
The erudite polymath, Shaikh Al Islam, Taqi al-deen Abu al-Abbas Ahmad ibn Abd al-Haleem, from the family of Taymiyyah, wrote:
When you wish to content yourself with a creed (madhab[5]) -
Receiving by which, a closeness (to Allah) and deliverance from the Fire
Then profess (a creed) made from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah which
Reached us by way of the Messenger of Allah and was conveyed by the very best (of people)!
And leave off innovation and the religion of Rejectionism[6] which
Would only serve to lead you, the one who calls to it, to the Fire of Hell and a shameful disgrace
Rather travel behind the Companions of the Messenger (in their path) for indeed they are
The stars of guidance, the very light of which guides those traversing the Path
So depart[7] in droves from the Way of Rejectionism for it is an establishment
Upon disbelief, its foundations laid on a crumbling precipice[8]
Thus they are two separate courses (leading to) either guidance and bliss -
Or (leading to) a miserable existence sharing the same delusions as the disbelievers[9]
So which of these two groups has the greatest right to His (Allah’s) Protection -
And guidance to the right path when the Creator passes His Judgement!
(Will it really be) the one who curses the companions of the Messenger and opposes the Book of Allah
And has not a care for affirming the reports (i.e. the ahadith)[10]
(Or will it be) the one who firmly takes the Revelation as his example and traverses the methodology of
The Companions while encompassed by love for the blessed, pure kinfolk of Muhammad [peace be upon him] (the Ahl al-Bayt)?[11]
Notes: *updated part of the article (this article has been reposted)
Source: www.islam21c.com
[1] Narrated by Sa’eed Al-Khudri, Sahih Al-Bukhari #3673. Also narrated by Abu Hurairah, Sahih Muslim #254
[2] He is Jamalud-Deen Abu-Mansoor Al-Hassan bin Yusuf bin ‘Ali bin Al-Mutahhir Al-Hilli, a Shi’ite scholar born in 648H and died two years before Ibn Taymiyyah in 726AH. He moved from his native Iraq to Persia and was quite influential in the court of Oljaitu Khudabanda.
[3] Surah An-Nisaa [4:135]
[4] Ibn Taymiyyah. Minhaaj As-Sunnah. Vol 1, Chapter The necessity of the scholars to convey the knowledge and to clarify the misguidance of the Rawāfiḍ
[5] Its important to note how the meaning and connotations of a word can change depending on its context, even more so within the framework of Islamic sciences. A single word may have a separate literal meaning yet its definition changes when that word is used say within the sciences of hadith, fiqh, ‘aqeedah etc. The word “Madhab” used here will be associated by most people to a Fiqh school of jurisprudence from amongst the four Sunni orthodox established schools of Imam Abu Hanifa, Malik, Ash-Shaafi’i or Ahmad bin Hambal, May Allah have mercy upon them all. However linguistically the word is derived from its root “dhahaba” meaning “to go”. The specific form pattern in which the word “Madhab” appears is known in grammatical terminology as an “ism makaan”, i.e. the place where the action of the root verb is carried out. For example the root verb “sajada” meaning “to prostrate”, when placed into the “ism makaan” form pattern results in the word “masjid”, i.e. the place where the sajdah is carried out by people. Thus the word “madhab” literally means a path or a methodology that is traversed. In the context of this poem, it refers to a set of beliefs, one’s creed or ‘aqeedah that they are to follow if they want to the success of what is mentioned in the following lines. This is proved by the second part of the first line, “Receiving by which a closeness to Allah and deliverance from the Fire”. This obviously cannot be in reference to a fiqh madhab since differences within jurisprudence and derived rulings on issues not related to belief have been ongoing since the time of the companions, may Allah be pleased with them all. Differences amongst the scholars on fiqh issues are not causes for disbelief nor is it possible then for there to be only one single (fiqh) madhab that would deliver one from the Fire of Hell. Thus the verse clearly is in reference to a Creed that one professes, a madhab of Belief that is eloquently described in the verses that follow it.
[2] He is Jamalud-Deen Abu-Mansoor Al-Hassan bin Yusuf bin ‘Ali bin Al-Mutahhir Al-Hilli, a Shi’ite scholar born in 648H and died two years before Ibn Taymiyyah in 726AH. He moved from his native Iraq to Persia and was quite influential in the court of Oljaitu Khudabanda.
[3] Surah An-Nisaa [4:135]
[4] Ibn Taymiyyah. Minhaaj As-Sunnah. Vol 1, Chapter The necessity of the scholars to convey the knowledge and to clarify the misguidance of the Rawāfiḍ
[5] Its important to note how the meaning and connotations of a word can change depending on its context, even more so within the framework of Islamic sciences. A single word may have a separate literal meaning yet its definition changes when that word is used say within the sciences of hadith, fiqh, ‘aqeedah etc. The word “Madhab” used here will be associated by most people to a Fiqh school of jurisprudence from amongst the four Sunni orthodox established schools of Imam Abu Hanifa, Malik, Ash-Shaafi’i or Ahmad bin Hambal, May Allah have mercy upon them all. However linguistically the word is derived from its root “dhahaba” meaning “to go”. The specific form pattern in which the word “Madhab” appears is known in grammatical terminology as an “ism makaan”, i.e. the place where the action of the root verb is carried out. For example the root verb “sajada” meaning “to prostrate”, when placed into the “ism makaan” form pattern results in the word “masjid”, i.e. the place where the sajdah is carried out by people. Thus the word “madhab” literally means a path or a methodology that is traversed. In the context of this poem, it refers to a set of beliefs, one’s creed or ‘aqeedah that they are to follow if they want to the success of what is mentioned in the following lines. This is proved by the second part of the first line, “Receiving by which a closeness to Allah and deliverance from the Fire”. This obviously cannot be in reference to a fiqh madhab since differences within jurisprudence and derived rulings on issues not related to belief have been ongoing since the time of the companions, may Allah be pleased with them all. Differences amongst the scholars on fiqh issues are not causes for disbelief nor is it possible then for there to be only one single (fiqh) madhab that would deliver one from the Fire of Hell. Thus the verse clearly is in reference to a Creed that one professes, a madhab of Belief that is eloquently described in the verses that follow it.
[6] The Religion of Rejectionism, i.e. Twelver Imaamiyyah Shi’aism
[7] The verb “’Ajja” as used here refers to a swarming mass, something that is absolutely teeming with the subject of the verb. In this verse it is used in the imperative form (amr), an order even, for the masses who have a sincere care for their Hereafter, literally run away in droves from such a destructive, evil path. Imagine the scenes one sees when a natural disaster occurs, how large masses of people are all fleeing in one direction. This is the kind of imagery Ibn Taymiyyah seeks to portray in this line, since what the people are running away from is far more dangerous than any worldly, physical danger a mass of people may flee from.
[8] A beautiful yet threatening similitude is made here between the establishment of this sordid creed and that of “Masjid Diraar” which Allah mentions in Surah Tawbah [9:107-110]. Masjid Diraar was a place of worship built in Madinah by the hypocrites at the time of the Prophet (saw) with a secret, hidden intention, serving as an outpost for the launch of attacks against Muslim. The Prophet (saw) received revelation informing him of the true nature of this “masjid” and the real intentions of those who built it. Within these ayaat Allah mentions “Then is one who laid the foundation of his building on righteousness [with fear] from Allah and [seeking] His approval better or one who laid the foundation of his building on the edge of a bank about to collapse (‘alaa shafaa jurufin haar), so it collapsed with him into the fire of Hell?” So how fitting is it then that a methodology that claims Islam for itself, yet curses those very same noble men and women who sincerely strove for it and were responsible for its preservation and propagation, is now compared to Masjid Dirar? A place built by a group of men with the same kind of diseased hearts who claimed Islam openly yet secretly conspired against it and its tenets. Without doubt Ibn Taymiyyah was right, this creed too is built on a crumbling precipice by those claiming Islam, inevitably to crumble without trace into the pits of the Fire along with the hypocrites who built it!
[9] This is in reference to those that profess the creed of Rejectionism. They themselves claim Islam and the title of “Muslim” however the reality of their status is completely different. Thus they may see themselves as Muslims, separating themselves by name however they are one and the same and thus in effect “sharing the same delusions” and ultimately the end of those they claim to be different from.
[10] This is a lengthy topic within itself but this line in essence refers to complete lack of critique and science even, when it comes to hadeeth narrations and authentications. They reject established books of hadeeth, seeking to attack the narrators within them however their own books are full of untraceable fabrications, no concept of authentication, huge gaps often generations in size within their chains of narration, complete lack of chain of narration many times as well as the mention of numerous unknown narrators who cannot be traced nor have any records attesting to their character or lives even. This is all in stark contrast to the science of Hadeeth within Ahlus Sunnah in which everything is meticulously checked, verified and documented. The opposite of what is mentioned in this verse, “Ithbaatul Akhbaar”
[11] As Ibn Taymiyyah states in his Aqeedah Al-Waasitiyyah, “They (i.e., the Sunnis) love the people of the household of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); they regard them with love and loyalty, and they heed the command of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) concerning them… but they reject the way of the Rafidah [the Shia] who hate the Sahaabah and slander them, and they reject the way of the Naasibis who insult Ahl al-Bayt in words and deed”. Thus it is incumbent upon us to love and respect both and it is from the way of the people of Rejectionism to go to extremes by cursing one and venerating the other, creating an imaginary divide and rifts between the two when there isn’t one.
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THEY NEED SERIOUS DA'WAH FROM THE QURAN AND THE HADITH
written by MR MAMADOU BENDALOUE, December 07, 2011
written by MR MAMADOU BENDALOUE, December 07, 2011
ASSALAM ALIAKUM
MAY ALLAH SWT GUIDE SOME OF THEM TO THE PATH OF THE QURAN AND THE SUNNAH
WHATEVER OUR PROHET S.A.W BROUGHT IS THE BEST FOR HIS UMMAH THEREFORE WE SHOULD TAKE FROM HIM S.A.W HIS COMPANIONS AND SALAFI WHO CAME AFTER THEM.
ALLAH S.W.T HAS WARNED US IN HIS PURIFIES PAGES THE QURAN ABOUT THOSE WHO CLAIMED TO BE FOLLOWING HIS DEEN WHILE MISLEADING OTHERS TO THE PATH OF IBLISS(SATAN) QUR,AN CHAPTER 63. 3:102. 3:145 5:2
THE HADITH GOES ANYONE WHO BROUGTH ANYTHING WHICH IS NOT ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND THE HADITH MUST REJECTED. THEREFORE WE MUST REJECT ANY ABERRANT OR DEVIANT TEACHING AND ANY SECT WHICH GOES AGAINST THE TRUE TEACHING AND THE SAYING OF THE LAST AND SEAL OF THE PROPHET OF ALLAH (SWT)HE SWT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM IN THIS WORLD AND THE HEREAFTER.
WE ACCEPT WHAT IS FROM THE TONGUE OF THE PROPHET S.A.W. TWO FULL SURAS QURAN CHAPTER 47 AND 48. THEREFORE MAY ALLAH SWT GUIDE THEM I REPEAT THEY SERIOUSLY DA'WAH LIKE NUH(A.S) CALLING HIS PEOPLE DAY IN AND OUT, MORNING AND NIGHT. SHI'AH MUST FEAR ALLAH AND TAKE EXACTLY WHATEVER IN THE QURAN AND THE SAYING OF THE PROPHET (S.A.W) MAY HE SWT GUIDE AND FORGIVE THEM
NO ONE SHOULD CALL ANY THEM LET PRAY FOR THEM WE SHOULD THINK OF TAIF.
AND HOW THE PROPHET S.A.W. FORGIVE THE SON OF ABU JAHL(IKRIMAH BIN ABU JAHL) HE WAS AN ENEMY OF ISLAM BUT ALLAH SWT GUIDED TO THE EXTEND THAT HE FOUGHT LIKE A EARLESS TIGER WITH HORSE MONEY AND STRENGHT AGAINST THE ENEMIES OF ISALM.
MAY ALLAH SWT GUIDE SOME OF THEM TO THE PATH OF THE QURAN AND THE SUNNAH
WHATEVER OUR PROHET S.A.W BROUGHT IS THE BEST FOR HIS UMMAH THEREFORE WE SHOULD TAKE FROM HIM S.A.W HIS COMPANIONS AND SALAFI WHO CAME AFTER THEM.
ALLAH S.W.T HAS WARNED US IN HIS PURIFIES PAGES THE QURAN ABOUT THOSE WHO CLAIMED TO BE FOLLOWING HIS DEEN WHILE MISLEADING OTHERS TO THE PATH OF IBLISS(SATAN) QUR,AN CHAPTER 63. 3:102. 3:145 5:2
THE HADITH GOES ANYONE WHO BROUGTH ANYTHING WHICH IS NOT ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND THE HADITH MUST REJECTED. THEREFORE WE MUST REJECT ANY ABERRANT OR DEVIANT TEACHING AND ANY SECT WHICH GOES AGAINST THE TRUE TEACHING AND THE SAYING OF THE LAST AND SEAL OF THE PROPHET OF ALLAH (SWT)HE SWT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM IN THIS WORLD AND THE HEREAFTER.
WE ACCEPT WHAT IS FROM THE TONGUE OF THE PROPHET S.A.W. TWO FULL SURAS QURAN CHAPTER 47 AND 48. THEREFORE MAY ALLAH SWT GUIDE THEM I REPEAT THEY SERIOUSLY DA'WAH LIKE NUH(A.S) CALLING HIS PEOPLE DAY IN AND OUT, MORNING AND NIGHT. SHI'AH MUST FEAR ALLAH AND TAKE EXACTLY WHATEVER IN THE QURAN AND THE SAYING OF THE PROPHET (S.A.W) MAY HE SWT GUIDE AND FORGIVE THEM
NO ONE SHOULD CALL ANY THEM LET PRAY FOR THEM WE SHOULD THINK OF TAIF.
AND HOW THE PROPHET S.A.W. FORGIVE THE SON OF ABU JAHL(IKRIMAH BIN ABU JAHL) HE WAS AN ENEMY OF ISLAM BUT ALLAH SWT GUIDED TO THE EXTEND THAT HE FOUGHT LIKE A EARLESS TIGER WITH HORSE MONEY AND STRENGHT AGAINST THE ENEMIES OF ISALM.
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Anon, stop deceiving yourself and the people
written by Fahim, December 06, 2011
written by Fahim, December 06, 2011
Anon
By the way, where did you read that Sheikh al Islam ibn Taymiyyah said something like Allaah hands and feet are like yours and me? Either you believe someone who was exaggerating about Sheikh without reading the books of Sheikh ibn Taymiyyah or you are utterly lying about him. Please do not bring the translation reference from the internet. I want you to write it in arabic here word by word what Sheikh ibn Taymiyyah wrote with a reference.
Even your evidences you mentioned from Sahih Bukhari are out of context, they do not even relate to context of your argument.
What does hadith means according to you?
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NbGpm_PzHI&feature=BFa&list=HL1323210721&lf=mh_lolz] (Sunni vs Shia debate on Hadeeth - with English subtitles)
Did you ever read Quran? Wait, do you believe in Quran in first place?
Allaah says in Quran [with interpretation of meaning]
“They made not a just estimate of Allâh such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified be He, and High be He above all that they associate as partners with Him!” [al-Zumar 39:62]
"Do they not see that We have created for them of what Our Hands have created, the cattle, so that they are their owners." [Surah Yaseen 36:71]
"They made not a just estimate of Allaah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!" [Surah Az Zumar 39:67]
"The Most Beneficent (Allaah) Istawa (rose over) the (Mightly) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty)." [Surah Taha 20:5]
“Allaah it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Wali (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?”[al-Sajdah 32:4]
“Surely, your Lord is Allaah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things [Yoonus 10:3]
“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be [al-Hadeed 57:4]
By the way, where did you read that Sheikh al Islam ibn Taymiyyah said something like Allaah hands and feet are like yours and me? Either you believe someone who was exaggerating about Sheikh without reading the books of Sheikh ibn Taymiyyah or you are utterly lying about him. Please do not bring the translation reference from the internet. I want you to write it in arabic here word by word what Sheikh ibn Taymiyyah wrote with a reference.
Even your evidences you mentioned from Sahih Bukhari are out of context, they do not even relate to context of your argument.
What does hadith means according to you?
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NbGpm_PzHI&feature=BFa&list=HL1323210721&lf=mh_lolz] (Sunni vs Shia debate on Hadeeth - with English subtitles)
Did you ever read Quran? Wait, do you believe in Quran in first place?
Allaah says in Quran [with interpretation of meaning]
“They made not a just estimate of Allâh such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified be He, and High be He above all that they associate as partners with Him!” [al-Zumar 39:62]
"Do they not see that We have created for them of what Our Hands have created, the cattle, so that they are their owners." [Surah Yaseen 36:71]
"They made not a just estimate of Allaah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!" [Surah Az Zumar 39:67]
"The Most Beneficent (Allaah) Istawa (rose over) the (Mightly) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty)." [Surah Taha 20:5]
“Allaah it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Wali (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?”[al-Sajdah 32:4]
“Surely, your Lord is Allaah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things [Yoonus 10:3]
“He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawaa) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be [al-Hadeed 57:4]
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Good Remarks...
written by Anon, December 24, 2010
written by Anon, December 24, 2010
Good remarks by the user 'Ignorance.'
He pointed out that we need each other and our enemies don't ask about our aqeedah differences when they invade our lands and kill our peoples.
We need a united ummah in order to defeat our enemies.
I was quite happy the other day to see that:
Erdogan is the first Turkish PM to attend Karbala mournings in Istanbul.
See: http://www.worldbulletin.net/n...p?id=67483
Read his comments!
He pointed out that we need each other and our enemies don't ask about our aqeedah differences when they invade our lands and kill our peoples.
We need a united ummah in order to defeat our enemies.
I was quite happy the other day to see that:
Erdogan is the first Turkish PM to attend Karbala mournings in Istanbul.
See: http://www.worldbulletin.net/n...p?id=67483
Read his comments!
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RE: Lies about Imaam ibn Taymeeyyah
written by Locked Up, December 23, 2010
written by Locked Up, December 23, 2010
How could ibn Battutah have seen Imaam ibn Taymeeyyah rahimahullaah on a pulpit in his travels to Damascus when Imaam ibn Taymeeyyah was in fact locked up in prison at the date he allegedly witnessed what he mentioned!?
Either ibn Battutah lied or to save his dignity, someone added these lies later on into his book.
Either ibn Battutah lied or to save his dignity, someone added these lies later on into his book.
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written by seeking light, December 23, 2010
written by seeking light, December 23, 2010
It is so interesting that we love dissing the Shias but we never are able to sit down with them and discuss things. If you would then you would know that they do not have a different Quran, and Taqiyyah is a concept which is very much misunderstood, but nooooooo, they are all liars and of the devil so stay away from them. What a joke...
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inovation in islam
written by wak, December 20, 2010
written by wak, December 20, 2010
As Proohet Muhammad (PBUH) said in his last address that " today i have completed islam for you and that there will be no prophet after me" then changing any thing in islam i.e. Shiaisam or Ahmedia sect is inovation which is Haram or unacceptable in islam. We can argue our entire life but that is a fact. And Allah knows best.
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No taqiyyah please
written by osman0987, December 19, 2010
written by osman0987, December 19, 2010
While I was working in Saudi, a shia lady doctor of that country who worked with us told a colleague who was Egyptian, that the Quran we have in our hands is not the real Quran , and that all Sunnis should be killed as they are being killed in Iraq. Obvioulsy she was stupid , because whie many shias hold these views they are not stupid enough to come out with them, as taqiyah is part of their religion. Yes taqitah is real, so please let no shias deny it - a friend left shiism because he couldn't maintain thet lying to other Muslims could be justified - besides, he had some common sense.
Anyhow, in this season, the rawafidh are particularly fired up becasue they have just spent hours before many a wailing slanderer lying about those whom Allah and the messenger loved....anyway, they will have their reckoning...
Anyhow, in this season, the rawafidh are particularly fired up becasue they have just spent hours before many a wailing slanderer lying about those whom Allah and the messenger loved....anyway, they will have their reckoning...
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Needs Balance
written by Critical Thinker, December 19, 2010
written by Critical Thinker, December 19, 2010
Salaam.
While the author points outs some exaggerations of some shia, he ignores that some companions fought and killed others - such as when some of them rebelled against the fourth rightly guided caliph Ali (ra). There are millions of peaceful practicing Muslims who are obviously better that those companions who caused fitna and led to scores of deaths in Jamal and Siffin. The hadith of all companions being the best is obviously forged.
While the author points outs some exaggerations of some shia, he ignores that some companions fought and killed others - such as when some of them rebelled against the fourth rightly guided caliph Ali (ra). There are millions of peaceful practicing Muslims who are obviously better that those companions who caused fitna and led to scores of deaths in Jamal and Siffin. The hadith of all companions being the best is obviously forged.
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shia muslim or kafir\ qadiani muslim or kafir
written by muslim, December 19, 2010
written by muslim, December 19, 2010
I would like to clearly state we should not go around declaring people kafir rather educate them. then leave them to do their own research. we cannot convince everyone. and we cannot kill all who reject islam so it is better to adopt a position of knowledge and challenge these wrong beliefs.Peace to all hatred to kofr not the kafir
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Lies of the shias which are beyond stupid
written by muslim, December 19, 2010
written by muslim, December 19, 2010
* Mutah- one can pay a women have nikah for a few hours of sex and is divorced after agreed period.(Prostitution by another name)
not in real islam. All praise to Allah and his Prophet (saw) and sahaba including Ali (ra) who did not accept this practice in his reign.
* Umar (ra) killed Fatima (ra). yes shia belive this to be true. They also believe Ali (ra) sat in his home and did taqiya while his wife was being murdered. In islam Ali(ra) is known for his bravery. he would have stood up to the world for Justice.
*All sunnis are yazeedi and only shia are hussaini.yes they brainwash there masses into believing that sunnis are the enemies of ahlulbayt.
*Wives are not Ahlulbayt. so all the shia wives should know that they are just there for child rearing and sex.not part of there household.so the prophets wives were 'Not part of his household' apparently.
*They Prophet (saw) had only one daughter. wrong anyone with a Quran can read alahzab. Binatekum means more then three. zainab,ummekilsoom raqqaya fatima.they reject two daughters coz usman (ra) married them.so who are the lovers of ahlulbayt?
*Ali (ra) did not accept abu baker r.a as khalifa.infact he did but shia say he was doing taqiya.
please shia and qadianis open ur eyes read ur books
not in real islam. All praise to Allah and his Prophet (saw) and sahaba including Ali (ra) who did not accept this practice in his reign.
* Umar (ra) killed Fatima (ra). yes shia belive this to be true. They also believe Ali (ra) sat in his home and did taqiya while his wife was being murdered. In islam Ali(ra) is known for his bravery. he would have stood up to the world for Justice.
*All sunnis are yazeedi and only shia are hussaini.yes they brainwash there masses into believing that sunnis are the enemies of ahlulbayt.
*Wives are not Ahlulbayt. so all the shia wives should know that they are just there for child rearing and sex.not part of there household.so the prophets wives were 'Not part of his household' apparently.
*They Prophet (saw) had only one daughter. wrong anyone with a Quran can read alahzab. Binatekum means more then three. zainab,ummekilsoom raqqaya fatima.they reject two daughters coz usman (ra) married them.so who are the lovers of ahlulbayt?
*Ali (ra) did not accept abu baker r.a as khalifa.infact he did but shia say he was doing taqiya.
please shia and qadianis open ur eyes read ur books
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Imams
written by R Khan, December 19, 2010
written by R Khan, December 19, 2010
As Khomenini said in Al Hukumat Islamia: one of the basic and essential belief of our religion is that the Imams occupy such position that the most honoured angels and the Prophets can not reach it.
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reader
written by reader, December 19, 2010
written by reader, December 19, 2010
re amir's comment
"This is false allegation on shia's that they are raising the Imams above the level of Prophet"
"there cant come anyone having knowledge above the Imam's"
think..
one of the ulama, al-hudhayfa i believe, once said that the creed of the shia is falsehood from the scrpture, and the intellect. what mr Amir has said is an example of both i'm afraid
"This is false allegation on shia's that they are raising the Imams above the level of Prophet"
"there cant come anyone having knowledge above the Imam's"
think..
one of the ulama, al-hudhayfa i believe, once said that the creed of the shia is falsehood from the scrpture, and the intellect. what mr Amir has said is an example of both i'm afraid
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May the truth be told
written by Ibn Ali, December 19, 2010
written by Ibn Ali, December 19, 2010
If people believe that this article is full of lies. Then please explain the following, "The traditions of the Prophet(saw) pointing to the unreliability of the present Quran are numerous.These traditions are more then 2000." (Allama Noori, Fasal al Khitab, p227). Also, "The Quran we have today is not the same as it was revealed to the Prophet (saw)." (Allama Mohsin, Introduction of Tafsir Safi). And finally, Jabir says "I heard Imam Baqar (RA) saying: One who says that he has collected the whole Quran is a big liar." (Usool al Kafi, p39). Please, please, if this Quran is false, then show the world the REAL Quran, that will show Allaahs actual revelations which will include ALi (RA) as the natural successor to the Prophet (saw). Don't hide it.....
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confusing
written by yali, December 19, 2010
written by yali, December 19, 2010
Your article contains a lot of information but the way it is written and the subjects that you focus on are confusing me. Is this a short biography of a historic figure? Is this a refutive article against Shia?
Though your sources are listed, I'm questioning the verity of them based on the way they are used in your article. My islamic knowledge isn't to the point where I can make these judgments myself, but rest assured that I will have a Mufti clarify this to me and update my comment. Peace.
Though your sources are listed, I'm questioning the verity of them based on the way they are used in your article. My islamic knowledge isn't to the point where I can make these judgments myself, but rest assured that I will have a Mufti clarify this to me and update my comment. Peace.
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We want the truth
written by Ibn Ali, December 19, 2010
written by Ibn Ali, December 19, 2010
Will the true followers of Shiaism please reveal the truth about their Islamic beliefs. Enlighten the muslim world on the practices of Taqiyyah and Kithman as famously quoted by the 6th Shia Imam Jafar Sadiq (RA) "One, who exposes something from our religion is like one who intentionally kills us". (Usool al Kafi p.8
Also, the truth about the 'real' Qur'an, Imam Jafar Sadiq (RA) said "We have a book with us. No one knows what that book is. That book is the (original) Quran which is 70 yards long. (Usool al Kafi p.41)
Also, the truth about the 'real' Qur'an, Imam Jafar Sadiq (RA) said "We have a book with us. No one knows what that book is. That book is the (original) Quran which is 70 yards long. (Usool al Kafi p.41)
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written by azadar, December 19, 2010
written by azadar, December 19, 2010
if German has to explain it, then you've already missed it. its salafi propaganda that serves the Machine.
on a side note, i would never leave anything seriously important that needed to be guarded closely to my friends or companions.
rafid means 'rejector.' from an ahle sunnah view, all jafari shia are rejectors, which is fine with most shia even though the sunni thinks of it as an insult.
on a side note, i would never leave anything seriously important that needed to be guarded closely to my friends or companions.
rafid means 'rejector.' from an ahle sunnah view, all jafari shia are rejectors, which is fine with most shia even though the sunni thinks of it as an insult.
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written by al suyuufi, December 19, 2010
written by al suyuufi, December 19, 2010
I've been hearing that the twlevers and rawafid are not the same...can you give quotes that indicate that the ulama didn't differentiate between the two? Or at least that they are both just as kafir as the other?
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written by soapbox, December 19, 2010
written by soapbox, December 19, 2010
German, please expain. Why do you say that? I am curious.
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Please explain
written by soapbox, December 19, 2010
written by soapbox, December 19, 2010
As-salamu aleykum German,
what makes you say that? I don't understand...please explain, I am curious.
what makes you say that? I don't understand...please explain, I am curious.
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written by muslim, December 19, 2010
* Mutah- one can pay a women have nikah for a few hours of sex and is divorced after agreed period.(Prostitution by another name)
not in real islam. All praise to Allah and his Prophet (saw) and sahaba including Ali (ra) who did not accept this practice in his reign.
* Umar (ra) killed Fatima (ra). yes shia belive this to be true. They also believe Ali (ra) sat in his home and did taqiya while his wife was being murdered. In islam Ali(ra) is known for his bravery. he would have stood up to the world for Justice.
*All sunnis are yazeedi and only shia are hussaini.yes they brainwash there masses into believing that sunnis are the enemies of ahlulbayt.
*Wives are not Ahlulbayt. so all the shia wives should know that they are just there for child rearing and sex.not part of there household.so the prophets wives were 'Not part of his household' apparently.
*They Prophet (saw) had only one daughter. wrong anyone with a Quran can read alahzab. Binatekum means more then three. zainab,ummekilsoom raqqaya fatima.they reject two daughters coz usman (ra) married them.so who are the lovers of ahlulbayt?
*Ali (ra) did not accept abu baker r.a as khalifa.infact he did but shia say he was doing taqiya.
please shia and qadianis open ur eyes read ur books