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Unscripted #58 | New Year’s Special

Umer and Salman react to some of the highlights and YOUR comments from the year 1441.


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Source: www.islam21c.com

About Dr Salman Butt

Salman studied Biochemistry at Imperial College London followed by a PhD in Chemical Biology, carrying out research into photosynthesis. During his years at university he became involved in Islamic society da'wah and activism, and general Muslim community projects. He is the Chief Editor and a regular contributor at Islam21c, and also has a blog on the Huffington Post.


  1. I’m sorry but I really feel that some of the things that were said and comparisons that were made by brothers Babur Ahmed and Moazzem Begg (in the Srebrenica podacst) are unfair and harmful to our ummah, as they hold people to a standard that never existed.

    Firstly, it is wrong to glorify and romanticise the Bosnian jihad and Chechen jihad and paint them as somehow less violent and purer than the armed conflicts in our Muslim lands today. Bosnian mujahideen cut heads as did Khattab in Chechnya This was known at the time and was brought to light again during the trial, in 2016, of former Bosnian Army Third Corps commander Sakib Mahmuljin from the El Mujahedeen group. Chechen fighters eventually also took the conflict into Moscow by laying siege to a theatre, and they took over and rigged a school with bombs! Hundreds of civilians, including children, were killed in the rescue operations and shoot-outs.

    Brother Moazzem Begg mentioned how our beloved prophet was merciful when he entered Makkah, but that was when he had the upper hand as a conqueror. However, why not mention the way that he dealt with Bani Qurayzah for committing treason, at a time when the Muslims were weak and had been surrounded by their enemies from all sides, during the Battle of the Trench? Or why not consider the fact that Allah Ta’ala rebuked the Muslims for accepting ransoms after the Battle of Badr? Mercy and justice are two separate concepts. Our beloved prophet was always just but he showed mercy at a time when he had strength and power, not when his relatively small group of believers were weak and being threatened with complete annihilation.

    Conflicts today are just as chaotic and confusing as they were during the time of our beloved prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and of the Rightly Guided Khalifs. Khalid ibn al-Waleed (ra) wrongly spilt the blood of Banu Jadhimah and again possibly even under the leadership of Abu Bakr (ra). With the words, “O Allâh! I am innocent of what Khalid has done” our beloved prophet showed that the act was to be condemned but the man was not shunned. Also, a sahabi mistakenly killed two men from a tribe who had treacherously massacred around 70 Qur’an reciters, even though our beloved prophet had promised the two men protection. In fact, in the chaos and confusion of conflict, sahaba killed sahaba!

    In essence, what some of the guests of Islam21C are doing is what Islam21C accuse those who are against revolts of doing, and that is painting a false picture of our distant and near history and of how Muslims in the past dealt with conflicts between each other and disbelievers, hence the need to make the much-appreciated effort to translate the article ‘Scholars that led revolutions’. Even Western nations use ‘collateral damage’ and they were being used as ‘human shields’ to justify the mass killings of civilians, and they have ‘friendly fire’ when things go horribly wrong.

    • Brother Moazzem Begg talked about how the women in Bosnia saw the Bosnian mujahideen as heroes. I’m sure that the sisters who were raped by American soldiers in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, at the start of the conflict, would have seen the resistance fighters as heroes just as much as the Bosnian women saw the mujahideen there as heroes. Unfortunately, for some reason, Muslim public speakers seem to be trying to erase the history of the Iraq conflict in the minds of people and instead they just go on about conspiracies, but you can still find these stories in official US reports and investigations such as the Taguba report. In fact, if you want to understand the Iraq (and Syria) conflict then you can find translations from Arabic of the letters, audios and videos of the major players at the start of the conflict, in western scholarly websites. According to the Taguba report, early on in the conflict, our Iraqi sister known only as ‘Noor’ managed to write a note which was smuggled out of prison, urging the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare the women further shame.

      And who remembers the tragic case of our beautiful, young, teenage sister Abeer? American soldiers stationed near her house would touch her inappropriately and say inappropriate things to her, and before her family could send her to a safer place, two of the soldiers raped her while a third shot dead her mother, father and younger sister. She could hear them being shot while she was being raped. He then also proceeded to rape her, then shot her in the head and then set fire to her body.

      And who can forget Donald Rumsfeld’s response to the Abu Ghraib photos that came out. You know, the ones of American soldiers posing with naked, male, Iraqi prisoners who were piled on top of each other. Rumsfeld was more shocked by the fact that gadgets existed that could take photos and spread them so easily, than he was with the devastating conduct of his own American soldiers.

      And let’s not fail to mention the humiliating treatment of our sisters at the hands of the mainly Shia, Counter-Terrorism Service. Shias who George Bush Junior, with the help of Tony Blair, placed in power to replace Saddam Hussein, in a war justified by lies and opposed by millions even in the West. Our sisters were stripped naked, electrocuted, raped and had cigarettes extinguished on their buttocks. It was a suicide bomber, in 2013, who put an end to this humiliating torture at the hands of one particularly notorious official. But that’s okay, when you’re counting up the numbers of Muslims killed by Muslims, then you can go ahead and continue to include low-life scum like him in your count.

      There was no revolt in Iraq. It was regime change at the hands of the Americans that directly lead to Muslim blood being shed and our sisters’ honour being violated. So what was the excuse then for not coming to their rescue?

      Please note that I haven’t included references because all of the above incidents have been widely reported in the media.

      In the article on Allah’s name Al-Dayyaan, it was mentioned regarding “A nation whose land, infrastructure, heritage, and community were decimated by an invader” that the oppressed will be given justice against their oppressors. Isn’t it a mistake to feel safe that the hands raised, praying against the oppressors, are towards only leaders and armies, and are not raised against us, an unconcerned or an unfairly hostile ummah?

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